911 Bombshell Totally Ignored

William Rodriguez, 9/11 Hero and the last man out of the Towers, with President George W. Bush at White House award ceremony; with Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad at a private 9/11 presentation.

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“There was a huge explosion in the basement—several seconds before the plane hit the tower!”
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By Richard Roepke
 
 
William “Willy” Rodriguez is the 9/11 hero who helped save hundreds of lives, and the last person to escape alive from the World Trade Center (WTC) Towers.
 
Inasmuch as the thrust of this narrative is meant to be about the honor, nobleness, and benevolence of heroism, be forewarned.
 
In its effort to reveal the essential goodness that resides in the hearts of most human beings, it also inexorably exposes the vilest evil that festers in the minds of a few.
 
Once past the heroism, this story begins to slice through the slimy underbelly of a vile, pathological beast that controls our lives, and gives us glimpses of the innards of this creature that grins gleefully at our gullibility and simple innocence while trampling on our most basic human rights.
 
This story is a wake-up call to the citizens of planet Earth.
 

Decorated Hero
 
Employed at the WTC for 19 years as a maintenance worker, Rodriguez was responsible for the upkeep and safety of the stairwells within the 110-storey North Tower. On the morning of 9/11, Rodriguez was the only person at the WTC site with the master key to the North Tower stairwell doors. [NB: For fire containment purposes, only doors on every fourth level were normally left unlocked.]

In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, Rodriguez personally rescued fifteen injured persons from the WTC by leading—often carrying—them to safety. Having evacuated the injured from the basement levels, he rushed back into the tower and led firefighters up the stairwells. Unlocking doors to various floors as they ascended, he aided in the successful evacuation of unknown hundreds of survivors.
 
At great risk to his own life, Rodriguez re-entered the structure three times, and even rescued people trapped between floors in elevator cars by lowering ladders down into shafts. Having helped lead everyone he could find to safety, he finally decided to exit the building.
 
Rodriguez is believed to be the last person to leave the collapsing North Tower alive.  
 
He survived the building’s collapse by diving beneath a fire truck, where he lay trapped, completely buried in a mountain of dust and rubble for over two hours. Barely able to breathe, he thought he would “die for sure” under that truck where he was literally entombed.
 
An agnostic, he prayed for the first time in his adult life. As he now unshakably believes, God does listen to heartfelt prayers, and miracles do happen.
 
A policeman who had been standing across the street had caught a fleeting glimpse of Rodriguez as he leapt under the truck a split second before the tower collapsed in an avalanche of debris.
 
It was this officer who later returned with help believing that the man under that truck might still be alive.
 
Rodriguez has been spiritually transformed by this experience and has embraced his faith again with deep reverence.
 
For his outstanding heroism during America’s desperate hour, William Rodriguez received a special commendation for valor from President George W. Bush at a special White House ceremony.
 
And that is the extent of the official story as it pertains to William Rodriguez’s involvement relating to rescue efforts following the 9/11 attacks.
 
But, as you shall see, his incredible heroism was but the tip of the 9/11 iceberg.

“Bombs! Bombs!”

Heroism and accolades aside, what is truly incredible about Rodriguez’s story is a shocking fact that has been concealed from public knowledge, and remains largely unknown to this day.
 
Rodriguez and a handful of co-workers who were down in the basement at the time of the attack, actually heard and felt huge explosions beneath their feet in the lower basement levels.
 
While this anomaly in itself should have been cause for serious investigation, it is the timing of these explosions that is extremely troubling:
 
They occurred several seconds before the first airplane impacted the tower.
 
The first of these explosions, which occurred about 7-8 seconds before the plane struck the tower was so powerful it literally threw Rodriguez upwards, clean off the floor, as parts of the false ceiling collapsed onto and around him.
 
Rodriguez heard and felt at least three explosions going off down in the basement levels within seconds of each other.
 
Absolute pandemonium broke out, with screams of “Bombs! Bombs!” rising above the din as terrified workers scattered in all directions, frantically seeking ways to escape.
 
[NB: There were a total of six basement levels. Level-2, immediately below Rodriguez’s position and the apparent location of the first explosion, was a “Mechanical Floor”—a restricted access area.]  

But the “bombs” were by no means confined to the basement levels.
 
During his subsequent rescue efforts on the upper floors, Rodriguez claims he heard explosions going off “all over the building.”  
 
Felipe David, a colleague, who was working at the far end of basement Level-1 across from Rodriguez, fell victim to the second explosion. David was walking towards a supply room when the entire wall suddenly exploded in front of him.
 
Burned beyond recognition, David managed to stagger towards Rodriguez when Willy took one look at the man and froze.
 
The skin on his face had almost completely peeled away exposing raw, pink flesh, and the burnt skin of his outstretched arms was hanging horrifically, “like sheets of loose cloth.”
 
David was the first casualty whose life Rodriguez saved by carrying him up to paramedics at street level, after which he returned to the basement in spite of police orders.

The 9/11 Commission Hearing

At the closed-door 9/11 Commission hearing, Rodriguez testified under oath that explosions were going off in the basement of the North Tower before the first plane impacted the building.

He explained in great detail to the Commissioners the numerous cases of serious injuries he had personally witnessed that were caused by these explosions.
 
He even provided the panel with a list of firsthand witnesses to the explosions, people who were ready to testify under oath.
 
One of the individuals Rodriguez recommended the panel summon was his friend and fellow employee, John Mongello.
 
Mongello was in the lobby of the neighboring South Tower when the first aircraft plowed into the North Tower where Rodriguez was located.
 
It would be another sixteen minutes before the second aircraft would rip into the one Mongello was in.
 
Yet, within a minute of the first plane hitting the North Tower, an elevator in the South Tower exploded to smithereens right before his eyes!
 
Mongello and others were literally blown backwards by the blast, as people—many, horribly burned—began to run willy-nilly shrieking in pain, shock, and sheer terror. Thick, black smoke could be seen billowing out of the now exposed elevator shaft, and the pungent smell of “gunpowder” was very evident.
 
Again, just as with the North Tower, this explosion occurred inside a building that had not yet been struck by a plane!

How could a plane crashing into the North Tower possibly have caused elevators in the South Tower to explode?
 
The esteemed 9/11 Commission never bothered to ask.
 
Worse, and to his utter disbelief, Rodriguez later discovered that his statements were completely omitted from the official record. As a result, not one word of this decorated hero’s startling testimony appeared in the much-ballyhooed 9/11 Commission Report, a document that continues to be touted as “the most detailed, definitive study of the events of 9/11.”
 
Furthermore, Rodriguez was told, quite emphatically, not to speak about the explosions to others until “further investigations” had been carried out. As the world knows, this has yet to happen.
 
As a result of much public pressure, the Commission’s investigation records were finally made public—seven years later, in January 2009.  
 
Rodriguez was stunned to find that his testimony was among those marked “restricted,” and thus inaccessible to the public. His crucial evidence remains restricted to this day.

 
Waking Up

Naturally, Rodriguez was flabbergasted by the Commission’s clearly suspect actions, but anger at the subterfuge was soon eclipsed by his far deeper anxiety.
 
The bombs.
 
He was convinced beyond a doubt there were explosives planted within the Towers. The official explanation—jet fuel, which is simply kerosene—made no sense at all.  
 
Besides, he had overheard many exchanges on firemen’s two-way radios that day that confirmed virtually all the jet fuel had burned off, and the few remaining scattered fires looked like they could easily be knocked out.
 
He was convinced the explosions he had seen, felt, and heard that day were not caused by kerosene.
 
They were caused by deliberately positioned explosives.
 
What cemented his belief and reinforced it even further was something he saw on television the next day:
 
WTC building 7 collapsing into its footprint like a house of cards. In a matter of seconds. [1]
 
He had walked by that building numerous times. WTC7 was a 47-storey steel-framed skyscraper that was located a few hundred feet away from the Towers, and a plane had not even struck it. But, just like the Twin Towers, it, too, it suddenly collapsed into its own footprint.
 
The first thought that struck him was, “That building was a fortress. How could it just have fallen like that?”
 
Having experienced the explosions in the North Tower firsthand, and then having seen footage of Building 7 collapse in freefall, there were no doubts whatsoever left in his mind:

All three buildings were purposely demolished with explosives.

[NB: In regard to WTC7, the 9/11 Commission Report, again, mentioned absolutely nothing about this 47-storey skyscraper’s sudden and unbelievable collapse. Nor did it mention a word about the numerous eyewitness accounts of multiple explosions within that building. Not one word. It was completely ignored.]

 As to who might have planted the explosives, he was at a loss. He couldn’t conceive how the alleged terrorists could have pulled it off; they couldn’t possibly have gained access to these buildings. He was convinced there had to have been other players involved—insiders.
 
He found such a prospect not only ominous in the extreme, but also disorienting and confusing on many levels. Suddenly, nothing seemed to make sense. Only one thought consumed him.

Who were the killers?

Strange Recollections

Having worked at the WTC for close upon two decades, he obviously was very familiar with its general layout. The North Tower, in particular, was nigh a second home to him. An extremely affable fellow, Rodriguez had many friends in the WTC community. His days almost invariably began with breakfast with co-workers at the employees’ cafeteria at Windows On The World, the elegant restaurant on the 107th floor.
 
Especially following the 1993 bombing, security in the towers was extremely tight. That was glaringly obvious wherever he went. So how did the culprits manage to gain access?
 
He started to look into the security company in charge of the WTC complex, Securacom, and was more than a little surprised by the identities of two of its top executives.

President George W. Bush’s brother Marvin Bush and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were both principals of the company. Further, he found this very same company was in charge of security at Dulles airport and United Airlines—both central to the attacks.
 
Brushing this curious connection aside as coincidence, he began to wonder about the practical difficulties the perpetrators would have encountered in gaining access to the buildings. He tried to recall having seen any suspicious people, or strange occurrences.
 
Pieces began to slowly come together.

He recalled seeing small teams of men in white “HazMat” coveralls busily moving about the building in the weeks preceding the attacks. Their presence didn’t strike him as particularly odd at the time, except for the fact that they used the stairwells almost exclusively and avoided using the service elevators. But he now began to wonder about these men’s real identities and true purpose.
 
One particularly bizarre incident snapped into focus, one that was so frightening he recalls it made his “hair stand up.”
 
A few weeks prior to the attacks, he was working in a stairwell on the 34th floor, which he knew to be completely vacant. Suddenly, he heard the strangest sound—one he’d never heard inside the tower in his nearly twenty years there.
 
It was a powerful, ominous, “rumbling” sound of something extremely heavy being rolled about. It sounded like a “huge metal dumpster on steel wheels, containing something extremely heavy—tons—being rolled around” a floor that he knew to have been totally empty—devoid even of furniture.

Yet, Rodriguez categorically maintains there was “someone” on that floor moving some monstrous contraption about.

Oddly, he admits to having been gripped by intense fear at the time, but he was having difficulty verbalizing to me the exact nature of his apprehension. While this didn’t strike me as having been a particularly inauspicious occurrence, it was clear he had been deeply affected by it. He immediately reported the incident to the main office, but was reassured it was a vacant floor.
 
Rodriguez was emphatic that he felt so frightened by this incident he didn’t dare open the door to look inside because he literally feared for his life.

He intuitively sensed grave danger behind that door, and did his best to avoid the 34th floor thereafter.
 
[NB: It is worth considering that long-term occupancy (and thus control) of a whole floor would have granted occupants virtually unlimited and unobstructed access from all sides to the entire 47-column central core of the tower via the elevator shafts. By sequentially disabling individual elevators for ‘servicing,’ the occupants would have had clear access to the entire 1,350-ft central load-bearing core—from the topmost floor right down the 6th level basement sitting on bedrock.]

Willy does not strike me as a man who can be frightened very easily, and this one anecdote has always intrigued me. The emotions I saw in his eyes, and his body language as he was describing the event were real. I was left with no doubt that what he experienced that day was extremely frightening and deeply impressionable.

 
Man on a Mission

I first met Willy in 2004 when he was touring the country with millionaire philanthropist Jimmy Walter. Walter had recently awoken to 9/11 truth, and was an indomitable firebrand.

Frenziedly mass-producing DVDs, organizing public events and seminars, and doing everything he possibly could to get the message out to the world, he was a one-man tour de force on his own mission of truth.
 
Such was his fervor, he once even stood in lone protest outside the White House bearing a placard that read, “9/11 was an inside job.” I recall being greatly impressed by the spectacle of such a wealthy, successful man willingly facing scorn and ridicule by going that far out on a limb in the service of a cause as incendiary as 9/11. Quite a guy, Jimmy.
 
Walter, seeing in Rodriguez the clear mark of authenticity, drive, and commitment, soon took Willy under his wing. Once the two teamed up, Rodriguez was telling his extraordinary story at various public gatherings that Walter was helping organize.

Willy had been “advised” by officials to keep to himself his “different” views on the events of that day, but that wasn’t about to stop him. His deeply traumatic experience and the shocking anomalies he had witnessed simply would not allow him to keep from asking the kind of questions most found exceedingly “uncomfortable”—even outrageously ‘unpatriotic.’
 

Dalliance with Politics
 
The White House ceremony had all but guaranteed his meteoric rise to stardom as a national hero. However, his newfound celebrity status would soon have its concomitant obligations.
 
More than a few high-ranking officials had advised him of the “sensitivity” of the times, and told him in no uncertain terms that it would be unwise for him to pursue his disquieting inquiries into “unfounded theories.”.
 
It was proving to be “very embarrassing.”
 
Ironically, at the same time, there was also tremendous support and encouragement being lavished by these very same officials, soliciting his participation on an altogether different agenda: To promote “patriotic unity” and emphasize to the nation the dire need for America to strike back hard at the ‘enemy.’
 
And things actually got rather intoxicating for a while.
 
Rodriguez the hero was soon inveigled with promises of political office in the Hispanic community, and carrots of all kinds were dangled before him.
 
He found the attempts to win him over by various Republican power-players to be almost overwhelming. The heady publicity had suddenly thrust him on the national stage, and he was deemed by Party strategists to be the ideal Republican candidate to woo the more than 30 million Hispanic voters in the country.

Charismatic, articulate, good-looking, fluently bi-lingual and a national hero to boot, he was a natural—the perfect political candidate.
 
Before joining the WTC staff, Rodriguez had worked for ten years as an aide to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, helping organize press conferences for high-level policy-making events, so he even had the basic political training already under his belt. [He also possessed stage panache to boot. An avid amateur magician, he had worked in his younger days as an assistant to The Amazing Randi.]
 
The Republican Party even made arrangements to send him to train for political office, and offered Rodriguez millions of dollars in campaign financing to run on the national Hispanic platform. For a brief while he was a rising star with stellar prospects.
 
But this titillating new potential career also carried with it a huge price—one, he soon discovered, that was in tension with his probity, and sense of righteousness and duty.
 
It didn’t take him long to decide. He refused to be seduced into concealing a truth he believed the world absolutely needed to know.
 
There was no doubt in Rodriguez’s mind that the official narrative re 9/11 was far from true. He believed it was his patriotic duty to alert his fellow Americans to what actually happened that terrible day. “I had to choose whether to tell the truth, or play their game,” he told me. “I couldn’t get myself to play their game.”
 
Tempting as the alternatives were, the forces of truth had prevailed.
 

Celebrity No More

That pivotal decision caused all Republican encouragement and offers of political support to evaporate.

The decorated 9/11 hero was now quite suddenly not only a Party pariah, but also persona non grata in the halls of high power.
 
By taking his courageous stand, Rodriguez had unwittingly assumed a very dangerous role, one that would pose a direct threat to powers that lay behind the veneer of party politics.
 
He had just signed his own political death warrant.
 
Naturally, the muzzled media didn’t appear willing to report any of what Rodriguez had to say. As always, they felt obliged to promote whatever the propaganda ministry wanted the masses to believe.
 
It takes enormous courage to go against such opposition, but that’s the kind of man Willy is. He says he owes it to his many friends—more than two hundred of them—who were butchered that day by an evil shadowy group in pursuit of some diabolical geopolitical agenda.
 
Shocked, inconsolable and deeply disturbed to this day, he continues his campaign with extraordinary energy and an admirable sense of purpose.
 
When I suggested it might be time for him to throttle back a notch, he responded, “I can’t. I am driven because I have a need to find out who the real killers are. The alleged Arab hijackers couldn’t possibly have rigged all those explosives. No way.”

The Mission Goes Global
 
Jimmy Walter wasted no time financing a “9/11 Truth World Tour” to raise awareness about the 9/11 fraud by first taking the message across America and later around the world.
 
And money was no object. Not one to approach such a grand and noble undertaking with anything less that total commitment, Walter famously offered a $1 million cash reward to any engineer or scientist in the world who could prove, in an academic technical paper, that the three towers could have collapsed the way they did without explosives.
 
Despite massive national publicity—the million-dollar challenge was even sent to the engineering faculties of over 100 universities, as well as a host of major architectural and structural engineering firms—there were no takers.

None. Zero. The prize remains unclaimed to this day. [But is this surprising? How does one prove water isn’t wet?]

Walter’s group was comprised of a team of world-class experts:  architects, engineers, pilots, firefighters, metallurgists, chemists, and psychologists, among others [2]. The group made a slew of public presentations in major cities across the US before moving on to Europe, and later, Venezuela, Singapore, Japan and elsewhere speaking to packed audiences everywhere they traveled.

Walter and Rodriguez even made private presentations to former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. They were surprised to find both these leaders were more than a little knowledgeable about the cover-up.
 
Willy told me that the home of Nicolas Maduro, president of the Venezuelan Assembly, was brimming with books, videos and documents about the 9/11 cover-up. Maduro, Venezuela’s top legislator, intoned that he was ready to create an international investigative committee to look into the “international crime scene” that is 9/11, and that this would be structured via Chavez’s government.

Walter and Rodriguez also appeared on every major Venezuelan television and radio station, both private and state-owned, and gave presentations to several universities. They were also scheduled to appear on Chavez’s weekly broadcast ‘Alo Presidente’, but this was canceled at the last minute for unspecified reasons.

And things evidently got quite dicey during their trip. Rodriguez discovered that undercover FBI agents on the ground in Venezuela had asked the hotel where he and Walter were staying to turn over a list of names of residents. On hearing this, the Venezuelan National Assembly provided both men armed military protection for the entirety of their trip.

A Sudden Serious Setback

All of these valiant efforts by these two incredibly courageous men eventually amounted to naught. Quite unexpectedly, and inexplicably, all the energy, enthusiasm and momentum they had amassed suddenly appeared to have hit a brick wall.
 
They were informed, rather sheepishly by cohorts of the two leaders, that 9/11 was simply too big an issue to “rush into,” and that it would be advisable to postpone further action to allow time for “more research.”

Such is the awesome fear-inspiring power and global reach of the amorphous perpetrators of this monstrous crime.

Eventually, in utter frustration at his inability to make any real headway after over three years of tireless effort and colossal expense, and hampered by poor health, Jimmy Walter finally decided to call it a day.
 
That little adventure had cost Walter over $6 million of his personal money.
 
Jimmy’s parting words to me, in 2007, embodied a truth that continues to resonate and gain currency as the years roll by:

“Trying to outdo the mainstream media by throwing a few million bucks around is like trying to outshine the sun with a flashgun.”

It’s hardly surprising you’ve heard nothing about these men’s heroic initiatives on the local evening “news”—little more than bread and circuses, artfully packaged and insidiously seeded for consumption by the gullible, clueless masses.

Witnesses Begin to Drop Dead

It wasn’t long afterwards that Rodriguez got his next wake-up call. Kenny Johanneman, another of Willy’s close friends and former WTC colleague, had also been in the basement with him when the bombs were going off.
 
Willy, now working on behalf of the community of Hispanic victims, survivors and their families, had decided to contact everyone he knew who had been present at the WTC that day so he could record their personal experiences on video.
 
During a lengthy interview, Johanneman recounted his experience in great detail, holding back nothing. Johanneman, who had made it his personal mission to tell everyone he knew—and anyone else who’d listen—that he had seen “floors blow up in the basement before the plane hit,” appeared extremely eager (almost nervously so, Willy now recalls) to get his story on tape.
 
Three days after the interview, Rodriguez received the bad news.

Kenny Johanneman had suddenly “committed suicide.” Gunshot to the head.

This is frighteningly reminiscent of Barry Jennings, the former New York Housing Authority Emergency Coordinator and key 9/11 witness who suddenly died of unknown causes days before the release of NIST’s “amended” report on the collapse of WTC7.

Jennings is on record [3] stating, unequivocally and emphatically regarding Building 7, that “explosions were going off all over the place”—while the Twin Towers were still standing!
 
Jennings also stated during an interview that he was “stepping over bodies” in the main lobby of WTC7 as he was being led out by firemen. The lobby, he testified on video, “looked like a bomb had gone off inside it.”

Not only had no aircraft hit this building, the Twin Towers were still standing.
 
[NB: This is virtually identical to John Mongello’s testimony about elevators exploding in the South Tower before a plane even hit the building.]   

Mr. Jennings, too, suffered a sudden and mysterious death at age 53.

Dylan Avery, a documentary producer, commissioned a private detective to investigate Jennings’ suspicious death (and the subsequent disappearance of his wife and two children). Within days the man returned Avery’s’s check to him and, giving no reason, refused to continue with the case.
 
The latest casualty in the long line of 9/11 expert witnesses to die under suspicious circumstances was Dutch demolition expert Danny Jawenko, president of Exposieve Demolitie BV, a leading Dutch controlled demolition company.
 
Having watched a video of WTC Building 7 suddenly fall at freefall speed, Mr. Jawenko had the courage to stand up and authoritatively assert [4] that he was “absolutely positive” WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition.
 
On July 18, 2011, while driving home alone in his own car, Mr. Jawenko’s vehicle suddenly accelerated, swerved off the road and crashed into a tree at high speed.

Danny Jawenko was killed instantly.

The Mission Ratchets Up

During Rodriguez’s long crusade, he also contacted the FBI, but they never followed up on his reports. [It’s almost certain they did, but were probably allowed to take it only so far.] The same holds true with the mainstream media.
 
CNN spent a day interviewing Rodriguez at his home, but when it was broadcast the following day it had been thoroughly edited: they glamorized the heroic rescues and the White House tamasha, of course, but wholly excised anything pertaining to the explosions. It was a total whitewash.
 
Some reporters have subtly warned Rodriguez to keep quiet, as his outspokenness could jeopardize his life. “You don’t know whom you’re dealing with,” one major-network insider told him. But Willy had already defiantly looked death in the face and will probably continue to tell his story, damn the torpedoes.
 
He says he is speaking for his friends who were forever rendered speechless, and adds, “I am living on borrowed time; I probably should be dead anyway.”
 
It’s probably this do-or-die attitude that has imbued Rodriguez with the guts to take his dauntless campaign as far as he has.

How gutsy is he, and how far is he willing to go?

 In 2004 Rodriguez was the lead plaintiff in a RICO lawsuit filed against President George W. Bush and 155 of his henchmen, accusing them of complicity in the 9/11 attacks, conspiracy to commit murder and other crimes.
 
This is hardly the behavior of a man afraid of getting whacked.
 
But don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensational courthouse drama with Dubya sweating it out in the hot seat. The court dismissed Rodriguez’s claims against the USA, DHS, and FEMA, and gave Rodriguez until July 7, 2006 to show cause why his lawsuit should not be dismissed with respect to the other 153 defendants. Due to a falling out with his attorney Rodriguez failed to do so, and the court dismissed the case.
 
But he’d be the first to tell you this was never about winning.

It was about getting the public to wake up to the facts about 9/11—the single most heinous crime and unconscionable fraud ever foisted on the inhabitants of this planet.
 

Preparing For The 10th Anniversary

The 9/11 Truth movement is growing almost exponentially, with literally hundreds of groups active worldwide, and more blossoming by the day.

But this took a few years to get going.

So utterly overwhelming was the initial mainstream propaganda barrage, and so raw were people’s emotions and sensitivities in the aftermath of the attacks, those who were quick to see through the fraud couldn’t even begin to think of organizing a handful of local activists, let alone a worldwide network.

Gradually—and thanks almost entirely to the Internet—lines of communication began to open across the country and around the world, helping activists to organize, communicate, build cohesion, and spread the word to the millions still asleep.

It was only a matter of time before people would become aware of the mountains of shockingly obvious evidence that’s freely available online—such as WTC7 in freefall. Common sense would then inevitably kick in and take over, helping them to pierce the veil of the official myth on their own. There is, after all, a limit to denial.

As a result of the steadfast efforts of thousand of dedicated activists, what began as a trickle is now fast reaching torrential proportions.
 
Reaching critical mass is no longer a distant hope. Especially given the millions waking up around the world to 9/11’s offspring—the bogus ‘war on terror’, DHS, the militarized police state, the monumental Bankster fraud—critical mass re 9/11 is now imminent, and an absolute certainty.
 
Thousands of activists around the world are helping spread the 9/11 message via public presentations, free DVDs, and even huge highway billboards.
 
All too aware of the astonishing rise in public awareness, desperate operations are currently afoot by the ‘powers that be’ to counter this worrisome trend.
 
Major Hollywood stars—including Robert DeNiro—have been signed up to read the fairytale script pushing the ‘Official Conspiracy Theory.’ I.e., how nineteen clueless Arabs who, without tickets or boarding passes, climbed aboard four airliners, hijacked the craft using little box-cutters, and then brilliantly outwitted the most formidable military force on the planet and its entire multi-trillion-dollar defense apparatus for almost two hours—all without a single fighter interceptor in the fearsome American arsenal so much as turning a wheel for the entire duration.
 
This upcoming mass-media pageant, of course, will be further bolstered by the government’s openly proclaimed—and ongoing—assault on 9/11 “conspiracy” groups.
 
Obama’s regulatory Czar, Cass Sunstein, has officially initiated a nakedly aggressive program of “cognitive infiltration,’ an insidious initiative where government agent provocateurs have been ordered to covertly penetrate 9/11 truth movements and attempt to structurally disable these organizations from within by sowing disinformation.
 
One can only wonder why this kind of deep sabotage would be necessary—unless these “conspiracy nuts” now poses a real and present danger to the powers that be.
 
But, take heart, dear reader: although truth lives a wretched life, it outlives a lie every time.

Every time.
 
Besides, it would take a lot more than a covert program of “cognitive infiltration”’ to dismantle 9/11 truth—that would first require rewriting the laws of physics.
 
On the side of Truth, we have literally thousands of professional architects, engineers, firefighters, pilots, scientists, and other similar groups comprised of professionals with impeccable credentials who are planning their own public relations initiatives.
 
But, in a country where 78% of its citizens get 92% of their news from television, these groups have their work cut out for them.
 
Despite the challenges that lie ahead, I cannot bring myself to agree with Jimmy Walter’s assessment that this would be an undertaking tantamount to “trying to outshine the sun with a flashgun.”

Rather, I would prefer to invoke the wisdom of Victor Hugo:
 
“No army can stop an idea whose time has come.”

 
The Power Of One

Meanwhile, there is one brave man packing a ‘flashgun’ who’s working wonders on his own. And he dismisses defeat as an impossibility.
 
I was elated to discover that Willy Rodriguez’s undiminished efforts are still in full swing, and about to reap rich rewards.
 
The man is on fire. He’s been reeling off interviews with major media outlets around the world at a ferocious rate, gearing up for a full-blown one-man 10th anniversary assault on the Dark Force.
 
Rodriguez recently mentioned some of the interviews he already has in the bag:

Yomiuri Shinbun (Japan), Arbitron (worldwide), Shanghai Morning Post (China), Express News (Pakistan), Global National News (Canada), Telemondo (Latin America), Le Point (France), RT (Russia), Radio Televicion Espanola (Spain), Reuters, and CNN (again). There are many more in the works that will be ready by 9/11/12.

[NB: Willy was quick to mention he’d learnt a bitter lesson from his last encounter with CNN—now, he rattles off his responses as seamlessly as possible to deny cutting-room butchers their “edit points!”]
 
Rodriguez is also polishing up a brilliant new documentary all his own, “From The Rubble,” which will also be released in time for the 10th anniversary. I watched the raw version last evening in its entirety.
 
It’s a brilliant bit of work—profoundly emotive, incredibly detailed, fact-filled and chockablock with riveting interviews with WTC employees, firemen, police officers, paramedics and other first-responders. These are all rescuers who were there, hands-on, in the thick of it, and witnessed the entire tragedy firsthand.
 
Even in its current rough state, I can unreservedly state it’s the most compelling 9/11 documentary I’ve seen to date.
 

Time To Give It Our All

Given the appalling trail of deaths of 9/11 witnesses over the past ten years, it would make sense that the best way to ensure the safety of surviving key witnesses like Rodriguez would, ironically, be for these individuals to continue to stay planted in the public spotlight.
 
Considering the serious threat these brave souls pose to the criminals at large, this might be the only strategy that could offer them a modicum of safety.
 
The more people who know about this brave man, and the many other men and women like him, the greater the chances of thwarting their ‘suicides’ or ‘heart attacks.’

On behalf of every one in the 9/11 Truth movement; in memory of the three thousand Americans who perished needlessly on that tragic day; and the million-plus innocents who have been slaughtered (and continue to be massacred) in distant lands on account of this fiendish fraud; it would be fitting, proper, and necessary to conclude with a message to all those who have awoken to The Big Lie, yet choose to do nothing:
 
Silence is complicity.

Another article about Willy Rodrigues

http://cafr1.com/wr911.html

 
Notes:
 
[1]   www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A  (Building 7)

[2]   www.ae911truth.org/  (Architects & Engineers)
   patriotsquestion911.com/ (Military Leaders)
   pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/ (Pilots)
   firefightersfor911truth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4282 (Firefighters)
   scientistsfor911truth.org/ (Scientists)

[3]  www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI  (Barry Jennings Interview)

[4]   www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMhUTrBODtA {Danny Jawenko Interview)

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Posted by Don Quixote on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:36LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Aeroplanes cannot disintegrate a million tons of steel and concrete, especially when they don’t even hit the building (WTC 7)
Posted by One Who Knows on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:24LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Pull it!
Is a term only used in a systematic demolition using strategically positioned explosives to drop a building directly upon its foundation.
Fact not speculation.
Posted by Earthmuffin33 on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:19LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Thank you for the post! A+
I think William Rodriguez IS a true American hero. And he should probably be in office somewhere, I know I’d vote for him.One fact about this country that has always bothered me is that we spent 63 million dollars to investigate Bill Clinton’s affairs and only One million to investigate the CRIME that is 9/11! It makes me want to cry.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:20LikeDislikeReport SPAM
911 was a false flag operation. Look up operation Operation Northwoods.
Information was release through the freedom of information act. Your government wants to control every part of ur life from birth to death.Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[2] One part of Operation Northwoods was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.”Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:”The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.”

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government’s Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted and the proposals included in the plan were never executed.

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:44LikeDislikeReport SPAM
all this just to make one world order come in to reality….it all fits….we are like rats in a maze….led where they want us to go….time to think for ourselves………..stop believing all news that is fed to us….look at the agenda behind every thing that happens….
Posted by HIDDENTEXTOR on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:52LikeDislikeReport SPAM
EVEN NOSTRADAMUS USED THE TWIN TOWERS DECEIT
as validation for his Hidden TextsHaving written the entire Twin Towers lines in the past tense
KNOWING the Hidden Texts would not be discovered until 8 years following the event
HE Provided the WHAT, the exact WHEN, the exact HOW, WHY AND WHO
and it does make very interesting readingGo to Fossicker’s Guide to Nostradamus
and
Hidden Texts of Nostradamus.com
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:09LikeDislikeReport SPAM
America The ProstrateIn a simplistic sort of way,
Across a desert lit by the moon.
America lay prostrate,
Lulled by prosperity’s tune.Beautiful thing in a world gone mad,
Everyone knows the lies being spoke.
They spill from the mouths of bankrupt souls,
Leaderless people, morally broke.The globe spins on, a compact disc,
Television soothes the planet.
Hard drives quietly think away,
Politicians run the gamut.

Prostrate pricks, sucking away,
At America’s aging tit.
Pay up now, or go to jail,
They care less, how you take the hit.

They act as if it will never end,
The Nazis felt much the same.
Fortify your home, your town,
These criminals have no real shame.

The knock on the door will surely come,
Midnight terror of the state.
Theft, lies, fraud and deceit,
Social incubators of pure hate.

Hang from a rope, they surely will,
These prophets of civic duty.
After the riots, the death, the trials,
Before these pirates split the booty.

RJO
———————————————–

Boomer

A winter wind upon us,
Crystal, chilled silk bones.
Lust, no lonely orphan,
In manufacture of our groans.

Joys of youth, sands of time,
Pass slowly through the crack.
Aged genie, trapped in a bottle,
Life’s set, fades gently to black.

Material gain, material loss,
Get George Foreman’s grills.
Magnetized cards, late night orders,
storage lockers, filled to the gills.

Broken families, raised by a village,
perhaps, battered by a spouse.
Credit floats the whole generation,
everything riding on the house.

From the bottom of the barrel,
Looking up, from where one lay.
Rot dreams of glorious youth,
The price we were forced to pay.

The barrel may be home or den,
Hell takes any kind of shape.
Looking up, from the bottom,
It still feels mostly like a rape.

Everyone may think us done,
America remains, just a rumor.
Who pulled down those towers,
You’re nothing but a Boomer.

RJO

—————————————————–

Dimwit

Our mystic world of make-believe,
childish echo’s of future power.
Junior demons amongst the Bushes,
the people continue to cower.

You’d think with Bush the Younger,
the world would have known.
The fix was in, law was dead,
back, when John’s head was blown.

The Elder knows nothing of Dallas,
The Idiot, “My Pet Goat”….
Bodies piled, on bloody lies,
neither Evil needed a vote.

Corruption floats the unwashed masses,
along a river of broken dreams.
Hidden within screens of blu-plasma,
and a people’s silent screams.

We do not torture, we do not accept,
the lies of fucking liars.
Think we’ll just accept them still,
then build the midnight fires.

It won’t be me, I hope not you,
to accept this fringe bullshit.
Because I know in a hundred years,
I’ll not be known, a Fascist Dimwit

RJO

Posted by mutant_truth on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:15LikeDislikeReport SPAM
“God does listen to heartfelt prayers”So, the thousands of people who died just didn’t pray hard enough? Interesting logic.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:20LikeDislikeReport SPAM
American CourtFaded Flags, ragged in the sun,
The Stars & Stripes fly tattered.
Americans sit, waiting to be judged,
The Bill of Rights lay sadly battered.A Judge in Black, the Cops in Tan,
we Citizens, shamed and weak.
Lady Justice, died so long ago,
court payments begin this week.Everyone pays, The State needs the bucks,
the Law keeps the cash rolling in.
Morality and law have no real value,
Visa validates The People’s sin.

The Dollar is King, The Court is aware,
the Fine Schedule just went up.
Judge and State, hand-n-hand,
all involved, beyond corrupt.

RJ. O’Guillory
——————————————

I hope you all don’t mind a little “corruption” poetry, but I’m retired from US DoD,..and it is as corrupt as it can get,…without openly being just a gang,….and since my parents were corrupt law enforcement officers,…I hope it fits for all of you,..

Regards,

RJ O’Guillory
Author-
Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:20LikeDislikeReport SPAM
I am sure the 2nd Kenny Johanneman is fascinating. Please post here or to youtube upon availability. thanks.
Posted by mutant_truth on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:29LikeDislikeReport SPAM
“Rodriguez and a handful of co-workers who were down in the basement at the time of the attack, actually heard and felt huge explosions beneath their feet in the lower basement levels … they occurred several seconds before the first airplane impacted the tower.”So, if they were in the basement, how would they know when the planes impacted the towers, down to the second?He wasn’t the last survivor out of the building (that was Jenelle Guzman-McMillan, who was rescued some 26 hours later at approximately 12:30 p.m. on September 12, 2001.Many reports indicate burning jet fuel was pushed down the elevator shafts and caused injuries and damage. To then take that fact and twist it to mean something it doesn’t is just thoughtless gullibility.

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:04LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Check out Judy Woods book that goes into great scientific detail on all the evidence on the 911 collapse. Did you know cars that were parked on the other side of Manhattan got ‘fried’ during the collapse…strange.http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:05LikeDislikeReport SPAM
anybody else notice his website is gone?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:08LikeDislikeReport SPAM
mutant,……..you are either a troll or an idiot,….dozens of other witnesses collaborate the events described in this story,…you can see in the video that virtually all of the jet fuel went up in a huge ball of fire upon impact,…and how would jet fuel fall down the elevator shafts,…causing explosions 8 seconds before the impact of any plane? And, I’m quite sure you could feel the impact of the plane, no matter your location in the building!The key question for folks like you,…are you purposefully acting stupid,…or how much more proof do you need that at a minimum,
….the governments story is BS…Regards,

RJ O’Guillory
Author-
Webster Groves-The Life ofan Insane Family

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:20LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Please post” From The Rubble” on download site as well as youtube as it is very difficult to watch these things without going back & watching carefully to parts again not easy on youtube better on own computer or dvd player.
Keep up the good work
Posted by norry on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:48LikeDislikeReport SPAM
@mutant. “many reports indicate burning jet fuel” “To then take that ‘fact “‘.
Just love how you changed ‘many reports’ into ‘fact’. very clever !
Why exactly are you here if you believe the official govt. story ? Too much time on your hands ? why not pursue topics you believe and have an interest in rather than trying to negate a story, from a sincere human being, who only wishes to help people to find truth in this very perplexing event.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:07LikeDislikeReport SPAM
May God keep this man, who is truly a man, safe.
Posted by KeyOfE on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:25LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Accounts from Rodriguez could be read mere weeks after the towers came down. People like Mutant_Truth are laughable, as they cling to the official story of jet fuel imploding buildings in freefall. And building 7, where there were only sporadic fires, none from jet fuel or a plane? How did that one also come down in imploded fashion upon its own footprint? See video of the Pentagon? No plane parts on the lawn in front of the building, and a nice round hole in the building. Where did the wings go? Oops……there were no wings, ’cause there was no planne! A missile made that hole. To believe that a group of ragtag Arabs with boxcutters who could not pass a test in Cessna’s could maneuver a jet into the Pentagon is the height of gullibility. Airline pilots with many years of experience have stated they likely could not pull off such a trick.The FACT remains – Rodriguez FELT explosions BENEATH his feet when he was in the basement. 9/11 was staged to justify the warmongers thirst for perpetual war, and to create the Security State the U.S. is becoming. Pure & simple.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:13LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Excellent report, Richard. Thanks for it, and your bravery in posting it.May ALL the facts come out regarding this horrific caper. It MUST be allowed an official investigation – as independent as possible, from either political party. For there is evidence that it is more complex than even this ‘take’ on it indicates.And thanks, Before It’s News, for keeping this story in front of the public’s eyes, and in their awareness.
Posted by D.K.T.M. on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:22LikeDislikeReport SPAM
1. How it is that you cleaned the stairwells of t least 1, maybe (2) 100 story buildings each day, yet when these building fell, there was 16 miles of missing staircases. Where did those 16 miles of staircases go Willie?
Posted by techmeaux on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:09LikeDislikeReport SPAM
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Posted by Trendybull777 on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:02LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Before any Rodriges opinion on Sept 11-12 in internet was article research of the explosives ingener specialist in high flamed materials and detonators and building,he said clear-without explosives inside building of Twin Towers it was not possible to blow the towers,next day this message was arised from internet as part of government compain.People are very naive to look at truth,it was accurately planed operation against own citizens which no normal human can believe would be done,but its not terrorists,its Ancle Sam who benefited from measures implemented,US government and intelligency services and Banking industry,I do not see reason for terrorists coming that way,but organised by some government supported agency,the airplain toward Pentagon is a maneuvre to make story better excepted.Silly World with brainless people unable to think clear about one who is benefiting from all kind of this mass created,being terrorist doing it-would be most idiot thing,because there is control implementation for an future terror and actually end of terror itself,so,logically thinking if you would be member of some operation clan think:why would you by your act finish all world terrorism at once?Hope this open eyes to many people,why EU allready cancelled the law prohibiting the alcohol trade with EU countries,the situation within airports had show how agressive the people given power for search to people for whom they were recently servicing security and how costs of security was put on shoulders of taxpayers-the law of simple mathematics will tell you beneficiaries of this tragic well planed event!Control,total control under not excuse,totalitarian state!
Posted by Uneekone on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:10LikeDislikeReport SPAM
BRAVO, to all the activists who have dedicated themselves to expose the corruption and deceit from the Demons of our world!May all the murderous Demons burn in Hell!
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:26LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Zen, will you attend at this … whatever they want to call it?..Add.International Hearings on 9/11 to begin in Toronto in SeptemberPosted by James adap2k on August 9, 2011 at 3:27am in DEMAND 9/11 TRUTH NOW !
Back to DEMAND 9/11 TRUTH NOW ! Discussionsbegin Paste from the
12160.info posting…..By International Center for 9/11 Studies
Published: Monday, Aug. 8, 2011 – 7:07 am

TORONTO, Aug. 8, 2011 — /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ —

A decade after the events of September 11, 2001, which resulted in the immediate deaths of nearly 3,000 people on American soil, countless victims from toxic dust, and hundreds of thousands of deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, international hearings on this pivotal event will begin in Toronto in September.

The events of September 11 provided a pretext for a War on Terror that has led to military invasions and occupations, and attacks upon civil and human rights throughout the world. The credibility of the official investigation into the events of September 11, 2001, carried out by the U.S. Government between 2003 and 2005, has been questioned by millions of citizens in the United States and abroad, including victim family members, expert witnesses and international legal experts.

To date, open and transparent judicial hearings to question the official evidence provided by the U.S. Government have never taken place in the United States or abroad. Similarly, no perpetrators of the events of September 11 have ever been brought to justice on American soil.

A group of international citizens has therefore undertaken to privately fund and cause these independent hearings to take place. Because of the global ramifications of the events of 9/11, the initiators of this inquest have opted to select an international location outside of the United States for these hearings to proceed. The city of Toronto, Canada was chosen as an ideal “international” location because of its proximity to New York, Washington and Shanksville (the crime scenes).

Sponsored by the International Center for 9/11 Studies, the first four days of these hearings will take place at Toronto’s Ryerson University between September 8 and 11, 2011. During these proceedings, which will be broadcasted live via the Internet, various expert witnesses will present evidence into the case.

Private funding to carry out these initial hearings is being provided by citizens from around the world. Limited seating to attend the hearings is also available. The Toronto Hearings will be moderated by Dr. Michael Keefer (Canada) and Dr. Matthew Witt (United States), and the final report will be edited by American attorney James Gourley.

I plan to attend, all four days.

Larry from Toronto

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:35LikeDislikeReport SPAM
This is possible but I think that ‘terrorists’ were the ones in the white suits. Remember they have been around for quite a few years without being detected. They did this to insure if the plane missed they could bring the building down.
The terrorists have been undetected for years here doing alot of work.
The WH is full of them. What better camo than asmat uniforms to be not noticed.
Posted by AusKiwi on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:54LikeDislikeReport SPAM
There is a much more shocking truth about 9/11 not discussed in this article. In addition to the conventional explosives, there were also nuclear demolition charges buried deep below the building, which triggered the final collapses of the the 3 buildings, WTC 1, 2 and 7.
For more information on this use the search term “Dimitri Khalezov nuclear demolition” on Google, and the same term on Youtube for the video. In fact, without the massive shockwave created by the nuclear charges the buildings may have been severely damaged, but would not have collapsed in a cloud of dust as we saw on our TV screens.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:13LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Reading is fundamental. You won’t find this information in any 911 truth videos. No one will touch it. These are free PDF downloads.Global Murderers
http://www.box.net/shared/4vbu1tkq32
Vast Financial Fraud
http://www.box.net/shared/yghazdjnmd
The Physics, Mathematics & Chemistry
http://www.box.net/shared/hf1eev4jvv
Posted by Adam on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:22LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Good article. 9-11 was an inside job for sure. I’ve had confidence since the day it happened that it was so obvious that most people would be forced to wake up. Their waking up has pushed the extinction agenda ahead. But, better to die smart than stupid.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:57LikeDislikeReport SPAM
See Activist Post: Architects and Engineers Question…Comments section for details about the preexisting computerized demolition system and the repriming or retriggering that went on just before 9-11. The retriggering perps also clumsiily loaded WTC 6. Nukes were installed by a partnership ansd the whoile mess was signed odff on by a cabal of zionists who had attained all the neccessary seats of authority. I have known of the setups for over 40 years, as have a number of engineers and managers and developers. The painters did NOT KNOW what they were spraying on other than it was a metal primer.Yes, it was a self-centered stupid bloody thing to do that intentionally caused the deaths of over 3,000 people through the retriggering. Chris Bollyn and Jeff Prager can fill you in on the rest.
Posted by Dust on Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:41LikeDislikeReport SPAM
I have been in the controlled demolition business and knew from the start by the way the buildings fell that it was done by shaped charges in a controlled fashion, what went on that day was evident from the start for me. Telling other people, even my family has been a up hill battle with very negative responses. I have not talked to my brother and one sister for four years because of my view on 9/11, there choice not mine I am sorry to say. Some people need to be publicly executed for their role in the worst event in American history and the day I and others lost any faith or hope for our government. We the People need to tear it down and remove all of the politicians who did it or turned a blind eye to the facts and gave any type of shelter to those who did this. That would include all CIA, DOD, FBI, current president, vice president and all members of the senate and congress. They all know the truth and remain silent.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:31LikeDislikeReport SPAM
I guess these bullshit stories keep living. It is called the sonic wave blasts created from fuel igniting while traveling down the multiple elevator shafts to the basement level. As for the building falling the way it did is simple. The design of the building there were no interior support walls all floors were supported by the 4 outside walls. Once the integrity of an upper floor from heat etc. is breached it would normally drop or fall within the confines of the four walls around it. This in turn would create a domino effect pushing the floor below to fall due to the max. weight allowance being breached well beyond it’s build tolerance thus the downward domino effect. Because most the outer shell all the way up contained a lot of glass windows if a blast was to occur in the basement many of the windows on the first few floors would have been blown outward or at least cracked as in the first world trade center blast. Smoke coming out of the ground exhaust vents was from fuel burning that traveled down the elevator shaft. Sorry the conspiracy won’t hold up, people need to get a life of get educated about physics and stuff around them before they fall into the lost sheep followers club.
Posted by David Icke on Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:45LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Bullshit beyond belief. You all live in an enclosed paranoid world. You’d have been telling us that Hitler and Stalin didn’t exist and that Churchill was a Zionist Communist international bankig alien. Wankers the lot of yuou. Grow up and take a genuinely mature look at the complex world we live in. No? Of course that’s too much like hard work. Keep feeding the fairies at the bottom of your garden and wait for the soup dragon to arrive and make things all better you poor little lambkins
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:48LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Dust you might want to reconsider getting back to your sister and brother after four years. When it comes to controlled demolition I will guarantee that you or anybody who ever lived has ever used explosives on high rise structure that only have outer support walls holding the floors above. As controlled demolition rules would change completely under such structures. There was only ever built four buildings that way in the world. The twin towers and two smaller towers elsewhere.The twin towers could be taken down easier without explosives from simply unlatching the support pegs/brackets on the top floor causing the floor to fall to the floor below breaching the weight allowance many times creating the same domino effect. No explosives needed. A very unique design that would also allow for clean tear down by choppers if ever needed.
Posted by freedom on Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:47LikeDislikeReport SPAM
replying to Anonymous from Thursday, 11 August 2011 8:31lmao, i have read some stupid anti-truth comments but oh daisy do you take the biscuit! So i offer you a helping hand into reality.47 riveted and welded steel columns were the core of WTC1&2. The floors were not simply supported by the 4 walls.
Here is a documentary on the Towers with a lot of footage recorded during the WTC construction. Short of a time machine, It is about as real as it gets for hard data on the WTC design and materials.
It may be of some help to you and others who are scared of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4334991174539603857
it is not a long video, but it might change the rest of your life.come to terms with that little fact and we will give you another

Posted by freedom on Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:54LikeDislikeReport SPAM
hey Anonymous on Thursday, 11 August 2011 8:48 read anon@ 9:47
it was by me, freedom, and you are in serious need of some facts before you make yourself look even more foolish than you already do.watch the video, learn some facts, save your lifehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4334991174539603857
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:39LikeDislikeReport SPAM
In the third youtube segment of my interview with Robert Bowman, we showed his compilation of WTC-7 facts that prove the official version is absolutely bogus. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=creativewindspirit#p/u/2/EJAVMUMjr3QWilliam Rodriguez is a hero many times over for his courage on that explosive day, and for his honesty and caring for the victims, and for justice. Thank you Richard Roepke for this article.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:58LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Great post Zen. I have never heard of this guy before.
Posted by Montezuma on Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:13LikeDislikeReport SPAM
We all know that the goverment is lying, so what are we going to do about it? Actions speak louder than words!!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:45LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Look we have to revolt against our federal government we have been fucking pussys for to long . nowe before they get all of our guns and turn all the world against United states. the world will backl us if we either fight and survive or live and die this way. on our knees.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:10LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Interesting to see the same broken-English trolls out in every comment section regarding 911truth. Having traveled the world teaching technical issues to all kinds of foreign language students I’ve learned to discern the origin by the way they misspeak in English. Here’s a consistent and perfect example:””When it comes to controlled demolition I will guarantee that you or anybody who ever lived has ever used explosives on high rise structure that only have outer support walls holding the floors above.””Not only does a sentence like that contain patently false information, ie , “only have outer support walls holding the floors” (see ‘freedom’s reference on the massive Core construction), but also these trolls just can’t seem to get a grip on basic high school English grammar, punctuation, spelling or sentence structure while consistently making the exact same errors! It’s strikingly like they are all employed out of the same facility without any American-born, original English-educated outsiders in their midst. I know of only one dedicated group in the world dedicated to internet comment boards who break their English and the facts of 9/11 like this. I’ll let you fill in the blank.Regarding their tired “pancake” argument, referred to here as “domino” (new English word for it here), I had to laugh once again. Visible in EVERY video of twin tower collapses is the disappearing upper block that supposedly crushes the in tact lower 80+ floor steel structures. The upper block is blasting outward above the impact zone, without moving below that impact zone, while the very top is descending at near free-fall acceleration! By the time the demolition wave begins to move below the impact zone, particularly in the North Tower, there is very little left of the upper block to crush anything below it. A few stories further and there is nothing left.

What was crushing floors 1 through 70? Ah, that must have been the jet fuel running down the elevator shafts!

You see the troll’s argument for what it is: While “only outer support walls” were holding the building up, “jet fuel running down the elevator shafts” in the middle of the building brought them down like “domino” shaped pancakes… really sharp minds there!

Posted by techmeaux on Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:29LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The basement explosions started with one very large explosion seconds BEFORE The plane strike, the lobby 95 floors below in one of the strikes, looked as if it was bombed. It was, even multiple times, people were injured and killed in those explosions, multiple explosions, are preliminary inner structuralpeppering to prepare the basement, for the contents of the demolished and pulverized building which would soon follow.An indication, was the shoring walls, which previously held under the building, were moved a number of feet.The last series of these internal prep explosions also preceeded the final demolition by seconds, then the final timed sequence of explosions pulverized the tower by floor, which sheered the inner steel columns, which itself is an inner grid of over 80 steel grids and columns, in an interior interior structure loke an inner building itself, these were “walked” inward, and downward, piling into dust and semi flatbed sized chunks of steel, convenient for a very fast clean up.=========================
(This is the one that explains the prep work in the basement.)

911 Mysteries- Demolitions(part6)

*Thermate evidence (steel liquification)
*”Blow the basement, every other floor, all the way down”
*Shape charges, for directing the implosion, inward on demolition.
*Pictures of angled steel H beams cut at an angle, for “walk”
* rubble containerization prep, “opening up” the basement volume to contain the soon to follow demolition into it.

911 Mysteries- Demolitions(part4)

*Pre-structural preperatory explosions
*Injuries in basement
*Nearly timed before initial plane strike.
*Inner structural collapse prior to main demolition
*Street level smoke before main demoltion 70-90 floors below
*9 second pre-demolition explosion felt for miles
*Multiple explosion while collapsing (Hoboken video/audio)
*Squib jets ejecta of pulverized building, people, furniture etc, blown outward.

911 Mysteries- Demolitions(part5)

*33 (1/3rd’s) floor sky-lobby band explosions
*Explosive energy wave and pyroclasticized dust blast
*Blast and shock wave, pyroclastic surge (needs and explosion, such as a volcanoe, or super energy explosives.
Mid-air pulverization, and gravitational velocity collaps (NO structural resistance)
* Slurry walls dislodged deep underground.
* Molten steel flows (atleast 2750 degrees), and perpetual fire 8 weeks later, this is NOT jey fuel.
*MSNBC cuts of professor as he was explaining molten metal in basement. (Thermite)

neil@mishalov.com

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Kenneth Higham6:38 pm
It is alright to lie if it is a good cause. That is what the Iraq invasion has taught us. I am waiting for the lie about September 11 to come out. Nero lives still!

Amidst Growing World Doubts About 9/11, Career Army Officer Takes Bush Administration Officials to Court
89.5% of German respondents do not believe the official story of 9/11.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23917

Military Officers for 911 Truth
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22665

Medical Professionals
for 9/11 Truth

1,474 verified architectural and engineering professionals and 11,565 other supporters
have signed the petition demanding of Congress
a truly independent investigation.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe who have gathered together for one purpose.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

Medical Professionals
for 9/11 Truth

http://mp911truth.org/

An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past from a retired FDNY Lieutenant
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

Why Lawyers for 9/11 Truth?
http://l911t.com/

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: “9/11” (FULL LENGTH)

Loose Change Final Cut

911 Documentary – Core of Corruption 2009.(FULL LENGTH)

Loose Change 911: An American Coup (Full Length)

The 9/11 Chronicles: Part One, Truth Rising full length

911 The Myth and the Reality

ZERO -(full movie) An Investigation Into 911.

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: “The Gulf Oil Spill” (FULL LENGTH)

Vatican Secrets EXPOSED! Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell – The Dawn of a New Day (2009)

Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined Full (Infowars.com)

EndGame HQ full length version

Esoteric Agenda – FULL LENGTH MOVIE – WELCOME TO YOUR AWAKENING!

ZEITGEIST: MOVING FORWARD | OFFICIAL RELEASE | 2011

Fall of the Republic HQ full length version

Fabled Enemies Full Length

Under Occupation – Global Hostile Takeover – FULL MOVIE

Police State 4: The Rise of FEMA Full Length

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: Police State “Full Episode”

Demolition Access to The WTC Buildings exposed

9/11 IN PLANE SITE – (Full Length)

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: “HAARP” (FULL LENGTH)

CIA Drug Ops Conspiracy-Unaired Documentary-Full Length

Posted by norry on Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:33LikeDislikeReport SPAM
@David Icke, david i would suggest next time you post to let the medication wear off first. “Wankers the lot of yuou” so David Icke is the only one who gets it, eh?
You certainly are a charmer.
Posted by freedom on Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:18LikeDislikeReport SPAM
hey J.F.K. LOVING YOUR WORK…WHAT A COMPLETE MORONhow can you say there were no stairwells in the WTC. Truth is a serious subject but every now and then it is great to have a giggle at people like yourself. Just so you know, no-one is ever swayed by this dis-info. Amused yes, occassionally irritated, certainly. made to question the data vased in hard cold undeniable facts, no mate, not even a little bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4334991174539603857Why am i reposting the same video that i have posted many times before? Well after a decade of working on truth issues i find this single video has more proof than a thousand hours of scientific discussion on the aftermath. This single short documentary on the construction of the WTC has awoken more people that i have communicated with than any other. Understanding how the buildings were built simply shuts the door on 99.99% of the fantasies in the official story of how they came down.Again , as above, watch the documentary on the construction. then try to say there are no stairwells, the buildings pancaked, they were held up by the 4 walls etc etc etc

On a brighteer note, I also hear Barney is looking for a new cushion for his big purple butt, you might want to offer your soft brain

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2011 12:29LikeDislikeReport SPAM
“”His story is just full with holes and lies, do the math, nobody can do so much in so less time..””…again, the same language pattern…
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2011 1:58LikeDislikeReport SPAM
In the end, Binladen has killed.
Posted by Blacksheep on Friday, August 12, 2011 7:18LikeDislikeReport SPAM
911 was without question a horrific tragedy to us all, that’s a given. However, it was also a godsend to the power elite in Washington D.C at the time too. We Americans stood by helplessly and watched history unfold thus, taking 90% of our inherited freedoms with it when the dust finally settled. Mr. Rodriguez is probably correct, for it would’ve been quite easy for someone a few blocks away holding an (UHF-scan-lock-multifrequency-remote detonator) to trigger several downstairs bombs just seconds before the first plane struck.After losing some friends in the second tower collapse I diligently watched the 911 commission coverage from beginning too end. Many times during that most irritating nonsense I yelled loudly at my TV set. At times threatening the innocent device with a half empty pop can because, I just couldn’t believe the absolute stupidity of that so-called investigation. the disconnect from reality in all those faces while Mr. Rodriguez gave his testimony. When it was finally over the verdict came as no surprise…Personally speaking, I believe 911 was an inside job cleverly conceived by a power mad runaway government who wanted to exercise total control over all peasants/citizens. Just look at that “Freedom Diminishing Legislation” that quickly followed those so-called terrorist’s attacks. Homeland Security? Ah, sounds a bit like Germany’s “Fatherland” to me. Thus, the key question we all should be asking here should focus around this one word, “Responsibility.”Did anybody in that intelligence gathering sector lose a position? Like fired for doing an incompetent job? Of course not. That should be considered the smoking gun here, that no one lost a high status position as a direct result of the worst so-called terrorist attack in America’s short-lived history. Some did ask, where was our Air Force when these planes were being hijacked and used as missiles? Better yet, why wasn’t there at least one General charged with insubordination?

Rest my case

Posted by J.F.K on Friday, August 12, 2011 8:06LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Hey FREEDOM *sigh*sigh* just like i expected *yawn*!http://www.youtube.com/user/chriskendall1#p/u/1/gUVjb9Offcc43,600 windows 22″ x 78″
5 million square feet gypsum board with metal stud
32 football fields covered with facadepanels
32 escalators
44 generators from all the mecanical rooms
19,000 trusses [roughly]
23 miles corecolumns
245 acres of metal deck [6800 floor pans]
245 acres 4″ concrete
45,000 desks
2,000,000 ceiling tiles [stack up 22 miles high]
1,800 miles framing 4 the ceiling tiles
80,000 light units false ceiling
45,000 chairs
6 acres of marble
245 Acres of Carpeting
40,000 File Cabinets
40,000 Cubicles
75,000 Telephones
198 miles of heating duct
198 miles of sprinkler system
50,000 Staplers
20,000 miles of wiring
12 watertanks [5000 gallon]
2 standpipes [6″ wide times 415+417 mtrs]
220 hoses connected to the standpipes
300 Mainframe computers
45,000 Computer monitors
45,000 Keyboards
45,000 mice/computer aid
650 Fire Extinguishers
3,000 Copy Machines
2,000 Water Coolers
3,000 Printers
20,000 doors
40,000 door knobs
450 Refrigerators
5,000 Snack and Soda vending machines
3,000 Wallets & purses
3,000 Employee ID cards (Required after 1993 bombing)
3,000 Employee personal cell phones
40 miles office heaters [behind the spandrel]Did i forget something?

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2011 10:40LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The most damning thing to the conspiracy theory is the total lack of even one insider’s revelation or testimony from such an insider. I’d imagine they’re all dead by now. Accidents and sudden illnesses, you know.
Posted by freedom on Friday, August 12, 2011 2:48LikeDislikeReport SPAM
J.F.K. i am not sure what you are saying? Seriously, are you asking where are all the contents? Are you wondering how all these objects were pulverised into very small pieces? or are you just being a parrot with no ability for independant thought and do not choose to see the physical proof in front of your eyes.What is your point? Your post makes no sense.* We face a truth your eyes forgot *
Posted by J.F.K on Friday, August 12, 2011 6:13LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Mmm, “FREEDOM” I knew I did forget something!? I forgot the stair wells. I never mentioned it in my first post?! *roll-eyes*
Probably ‘YOU’ got problems by reading other posts and were ‘YOU’ the one who posted that boring construction movie that i have seen lot’s of times.Back to the missing contents………
20,000 stainless steel elevatordoors
200 elevator cars
300 miles stainless steel elevatorcables
200 big elevator engines
200 counterweights for the elevators
And finally 3 stairwells for WTC 1 and 3 stairwells for WTC 2.
Now i have mentioned the stair wells. *wink*Here are some gutted floors.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.phpt=56090&page=34
http://www.lmcc.net/residencies/workspace/past_sessions/world_views
http://www.martinageccelli.co.uk/gallery_244084.htmlEmpty floor in 1978, guess nobody wanted a lease??
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7906062
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toastforbrekkie/2174423740/

The point is, the towers were gutted and hollowed out, the 1993 bombing scared people away.
http://www.editgrid.com/labc/common/FOIA_Request_Occupancy_WTC_1972-2001
http://letsrollforums.com/press-release-world-trade-t24256.html

Look at the FOIA elevator shafts on youtube and if your there,
look at the fireproofing conditions in the shafts and the FOIA floor 85!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=foia+elevators&aq=f

I’ll bet some floors NEVER had a false ceiling up untill 9/11/2001.

Now back to W.R, he is a Gatekeeper for almost fully occupied Towers and gives ‘the sheeple’ the idea that both towers were full with tenants!!!

quote;
What is your point? Your post makes no sense.
* We face a truth your eyes forgot *

My posts MAKES sense and my eyes are open….how about yours!

Posted by freedom on Friday, August 12, 2011 6:50LikeDislikeReport SPAM
J.F.K. You still make no sense. Are you saying because, according to you and despite the publicly available tenancy list, the towers were empty and this means the official story is true.?what do publishing long lists of contents mean to you and what are they meant to portray to everyone else? It is great you know how to copy and paste but what is it meant to show?We who work in the truth movement would love to hear your declared position. One day you seem to be pro-official story, and believe the Towers ‘fell down’. On another day you seem to be anti-official story and appear to question everything. Either talk to your doctor and adjust the meds or simply state what side of the fence you want to be on. Do you believe in Truth or are you a supporter of the Official lies. Be honest and tell us, please.
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:49LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The 911 conference in Toronto will never take place.”They” cannot afford the truth to come out. Something BIG will happen to prevent it & divert people away from taking part. Maybe to one or more of the speakers having an “accident” could be a terrorist attack almost anything to stop it. The people running it should plan for this event & have contingency plans another venue extra unannounced speakers,(names not announced in advance who will be taking part) with transcripts of original ones who did not make it. Everything in duplicate & triplicate. People in organisation should only know things on a need to know basis as “they” may have infiltrated at a high level. Information not passed on until last minute. The people taking part who would supply this information to “them” may have been compromised or family’s put under threat of been given/promised money amount like winning the lottery. This information is too important to be suppressed. I also suggest a short video film with the “ you are seeing this because I was killed without being able to speak ,start” with relevant facts given to a few people they trust who are not involved with project, put on YouTube & as many other sites as possible should “something” happen. I know nothing about all the stuff apart from what I have read & will not be going to or having anything to do with conference apart from watching in the media, It is just that I know how these people think & do things. Good luck!
Posted by J.F.K on Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:26LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Why aren’t you banned FREEDOM? Calling words like; “Moron” and “Soft Brain” is good for being banned now wouldn’t it!Quote;
J.F.K. You still make no sense.Answer;
So much building contents and only a very, very small estimated 4 stories high rubblepile. Still don’t get it???Quote;
We who work in the truth movement would love to hear your declared position.

Answer;
We who work???

Like i said before, my eyes are open! How about yours? But, don’t bother, like i said, it’s crystalclear to me!

Here another copy and paste job.[some quotes from a article]

Having said all of that, regardless of our own intellectual capabilities, we all know instinctively that a plan of mass murder of 3000 fellow citizens and Americans involves huge political risk. And having 5,000 years of learning experience, they knew full well as do we all, that whatever can go wrong, will go wrong. For prime examples of this, see our stories and articles on William Rodriguez, Harry Roland, Bill Heitman and Denarious Jaunita. You see, it isn’t that the Ruling class has a problem with mass murder, or even the mass murder of 3000 of it’s own citizens. As under either scenario above we know that the purpose of the event was to hijack the U.S and Western Militaries, and go to Afghanistan and Iraq to perform in essence a genocide of monstrous proportions.
[….]
The former theory is that supported by every card carrying member of the 911 truth movement. From David Ray Griffin, all the way down the crazed and mentally disturbed Alex Jones. And all others in between, even our beloved and not so teflon super hero, Willie Rodriguez. As a matter of fact, it is actually a tenet of faith of the 911 truth movement, that you not only embrace the ridiculous theory that the day was a day of mass murder, but that you not deviate from this, even .0033%. Or what amounts to one victim. When I say tenet of faith, I mean exactly that. With no way in the world to prove a real victim of 9/11, we must take their word at it and take it by faith. Thus it becomes a religion unto itself. Consider this if you will. In a day which claimed 3000 American lives, what death did you see? What death did you witness? None. Only that of the jumpers, and no examination was ever possible of remains. Again, the only death we saw on a day which claimed thousands, is that.
[….]
Has anyone else noticed how the entire 911 truth movement has been taken over and co-opted by PHD’s and Big Money? And that it is these same PHD’s and big money which then proclaim to us that the real problem with 911 is that we have no credibility? Does anyone else see the self contained contradiction there? You see, this is a very clever ruse, of which they are all playing on you. They feed you the idea we lack credibility. Not so. There isn’t even any such thing as credibility. It doesn’t exist in any tangiable form anywhere on this entire planet. And anyone with a 7th grade education knows this or should know it. There is fact and fiction though. Truth and lies. Truth is credibility, regardless of the person or messenger who carries it.
[….]
If we are looking at a 30+ year conspiracy, and we are, then we are also looking at a truth movement which was conceived of, built, structured and put into place before 911 and immediately afterward. Instant breakfast, drive through car washes and ready made truth movements. Does anyone who has been here since the beginning ever wonder the speed at which the 911 truth movement was born? It went up so quickly, it is hard to imagine that it wasn’t ever here before 911. It went up nearly as quickly as the towers came down. And there was obvious reasons for this, many of which are obvious to the reader. But one of the bigger reasons for this is because if they had not done this, they would have lost control before they ever had it.

You should read the rest of this article, it’s a fair and good read and does makes sence to me!
http://letsrollforums.com/9-11-truth-movement-t24752.html

Nothing but hate between some truthmovements, looks like it’s all about the money now, isn’t it.

I did recieve an email from someone 6 weeks ago. I use a small part of it, because the writher is known to me and wish to be anonymus.

“I have been researching Luke Rudkowski and his true identity. I have reason to believe that he is some type of plant in the truth movement set undermine it and to provide info on people to govt higher ups.”
[….]
“I do not believe Lukasz Milewski existed as the person being portryed as dead in the wtc.”

And you worked in “A” truthmovement?

Truther Luke versus Luke who worked in the WTC?
Get it?
Thruther Badillo versus T J Sgroi his uncle who worked in the WTC?
Get it now??
Badillo and Rodriguez are close buddies.
Still don’t get it???

SAYS ENOUGH…. and I rest my case also!

Posted by Higzy on Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:09LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The next time you struggle to comprehend how someone could spend their time trolling the internet in order to defend and downplay whatever government cover-up or abuse is in the news, consider the fact that they may be on a government payroll.
Posted by freedom on Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:26LikeDislikeReport SPAM
so if i understand it right,
j.f.k. is saying the Truth movement itself is a lie created to spread dis-infook, that pretty much states his position i guess. Good to know that the dis-info agents have certainly reached desperate new lows..the logic circuits certainly have burnt out on his dataminehave you really thought that through j.f.k.? The truth movement is a group of people from wide and varied sources, situations and lives, most of which have few if any regular communication but are bound by simple and honest desires to question the science behind the events described in the official story and eventually achieve the goal of a new investigation.

I am surmising you are an American, as such you possibly fall under the illusion that America is the be all and end all of anything and everything and have little knowledge of what is actually happening out in the rest of the world. Take NZ for example, a small country but we have many active Truth workers and they are spread across the country, never really get time together yet continue to function without our scripts that you allude to..

One more little thing to remember j.f.k. there are a large number of events from that day that have little if anything to to do with the WTC, its contents or their ‘collapse’

Now I sincerely apologise for earlier using the word moron, i should have used the more appropriate form of moronic, as in your views, though apparently earnest are moronic. I should not have directed it to you personally and for that i do apologise.

and yes many people work in the truth movement, it does not mean we get paid, it does not mean it is a covert organisation that just appeared from nowhere. It is what happens when people with small and very finite resources decide to do something together that involves more than spending their days on websites splitting hairs to create unnecessary tension.

Of course there may be people who have been planted in the movement since its inception but if there were not then ‘they’ would not be doing their job. it is part of any resistance to deal with agent-provocateurs and deal with them we do, every single day.

there is a meeting down here in NZ, in a few hours, with people planning a number of screenings for the 10th anniversary i wll let them know they are all just pawns in a game designed by better minds shall i?

the sooner you look beyond the Towers as your bastion of proof the sooner your obvious passion may find real focus and direction.Though you may want to share your views on WTC7 which i notice is always absent from your comments.

i wish you well and i wish you peace in your efforts. the rest of us will, if you don’t mind, carry on working for Truth.

Posted by norry on Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:12LikeDislikeReport SPAM
@JFK. Still in a quandry regarding your list of office furniture and such and how it relates to the buildings coming down. Could you please explain.
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:38LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Outstanding!! If youse guys are not Lizard people, the kind have a chance. See Activist Post : Architects and Engineers Question… Comments for most of what I have known for 40 years . Remind people this was an organic chemical binder in this cement and not water. Extra strength thin floor slabs poured in thermite coated pans. The stuff cooked from the thermite. Find Dr. Ed Ward, MD who knows a lot about US/USSR treaty specifics for more on the nukes in the basements. He knows beyond what I have for over 40 years.You can see how the preexisting thermite along the exterior wall has been ignited and burned. Whether this was done by the jets’ electrical fields, or rewiring accomplished rto create this vulnerability (ie.rearranged the grounding for the igniters, may still be up for question. I have never seen the schematic. Since we know the top management who okeyed the WTC/Sears tower preset systems are cold-blooded killers, safe to say they would not have cared one way or the other. Culpability and intent is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt because of the recent demolitions clumsily set in WTC 6 and other sites.
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:38LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Outstanding!! If youse guys are not Lizard people, the kind have a chance. See Activist Post : Architects and Engineers Question… Comments for most of what I have known for 40 years . Remind people this was an organic chemical binder in this cement and not water. Extra strength thin floor slabs poured in thermite coated pans. The stuff cooked from the thermite. Find Dr. Ed Ward, MD who knows a lot about US/USSR treaty specifics for more on the nukes in the basements. He knows beyond what I have for over 40 years.You can see how the preexisting thermite along the exterior wall has been ignited and burned. Whether this was done by the jets’ electrical fields, or rewiring accomplished rto create this vulnerability (ie.rearranged the grounding for the igniters, may still be up for question. I have never seen the schematic. Since we know the top management who okeyed the WTC/Sears tower preset systems are cold-blooded killers, safe to say they would not have cared one way or the other. Culpability and intent is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt because of the recent demolitions clumsily set in WTC 6 and other sites.
Posted by J.F.K on Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:12LikeDislikeReport SPAM
@NORRY;That rubblepile was way to low, WAY TO LOW! There were never
ever 10/15,000 people on a averaged working day, in ‘EACH’ Tower. [100/150 people a floor]2 quote’s from some exellent research.
FOIA request with shocking numbers!
http://letsrollforums.com/press-release-world-trade-t24256.html
http://letsrollforums.com/world-trade-center-frauds-t22779.htmlQuote;
“What this shows us is something far different then we were told and sold. We have been told through various sources that their were occupancy issues with the twins and that they also had their highest occupancy at the time of the attacks, which we are told was at 95% occupancy.”
[….]
“How is it possible, especially considering what happened with the world trade center, to see that all of the upper floors were leased only a few years prior to 9/11? That’s an incredible expanse of time, 26 years in most case, some 28 years, where for instance floor 88 had bare floors and no tenants until 1999. The elevators in the north tower never stopped at floor 88 until mid 1999. Might I ask at this time how it is possible that any lights were ever on on floor 88 before 1999? The entire tops of these towers should have been darkened at night between the years 1972 and 1997-98.”

Another lie!!!
‘I saw the people in the cockpit’ by George Sleigh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1544636.stm

Unbelievable stories wouldn’t you agree!? But, is it true?
Well, if your behind a peecee at home and lurking for some 9/11 news and by accident found this story. You would say..”Wow, what a lucky bastard” and take his luck for granted, but……
http://forums.nodoubt.com/forums/2379566/ShowPost.aspx
Better read the whole page, there is quite some shocking research done. Since people are doing more FOIA’s these days, there are more and more companies and people exposed.
Some big reasons were the 15 or16 small and big fires at the Towers and the 1993 bombing was the big exodus!

Ditto happend with Tania Head, also a 9/11 fraud. I think she wanted a big slice out of the VCF money, like the rest of the 9/11 players! The VCF was and still is a billion dollar business you know.

WTC2 Regus fraud, 90 people claimed death, but there was no Regus at WTC 2, on the 93th floor.
http://letsrollforums.com/ingeborg-lariby-key-figure-t21912.html
Harry Rolland, a black guy who tells 9/11 stories at Ground Zero.
He lost a ‘so called nephew’ at the Towers! But the nephew was never in the building.[his nephew was white and on one of the planes, i guess a big powned]
http://letsrollforums.com/press-release-tribute-harry-t24400.html

Here a article about window measures. There were 43,600 windows wide 22″x78″, the people in the windows have impossible measures!
http://letsrollforums.com/windows-aluminum-cladding-measures-t25097.html

There was nothing to see in that rubble pile, none of the contents mentioned in the list I posted. But if you ain’t research it and buy why the media is selling…

http://www.youtube.com/user/chriskendall1#p/u/1/gUVjb9Offcc

Just use your common sence in imagination, for me it’s crystalclear!

@FREEDOM.
Maybe you have problems with the reading part? The next quote was in the article!
quote;
“Has anyone else noticed how the entire 911 truth movement has been taken over and co-opted by PHD’s and Big Money? And that it is these same PHD’s and big money which then proclaim to us that the real problem with 911 is that we have no credibility?”

‘That’ kind of thruth movements ‘and’ some rotten apple’s, like mentioned earlier in one of my reply’s!

Building #7 was pulled.
The Pentagon and flight 93 is a piece of cake!?

Satisfied?! *wink*

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:36LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The evidence is overwhelming that MOSSAD had front organizations in the U.S who orchestrated the attacks and planted the explosives. Known Muslim enemies could never gain access, but a “friendly” country could easily infiltrate operatives. There is the decorated Israeli soldier that heard a conversation in Hebrew that the “Towers were coming down, the Arabs are so stupid, they don’t know we are using them, now the Americans will know what we go through.” Then there were the MOSSAD agents in the Apt. across from the hijackers, the celebrating “hi-fiving” operatives taking videos, the lone American employee of URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS who said that the entire Israeli contingent was celebrating 9/11. The crowning evidence is the Koran in the front seat of the van. That is so obviously political theatre. How gullible can people be?
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:33LikeDislikeReport SPAM
heading for 50000 hits
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:34LikeDislikeReport SPAM
when bush is revealed obama will be revealed because they blackmailed each otehr to shut up about the wtc and then the birth certificateCan’t you see obama’s Apocalypse will come by 9/11?
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:35LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Obama marked by number 666 on his victory-day drawn in the illinois lottery
Posted by WarriorClass on Monday, August 15, 2011 7:00LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 9:25LikeDislikeReport SPAM
Obama’s marked by 666
No need to calculate the number
what’s needed is to interpret it
the lottery is money so 666 is Obama’s money
it’s why we must stop him from spending us into dependency to debt
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 9:26LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The Bible gives awesome means to understand the meaning of the Antichrist’s deeds (Obama = satan)
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:42LikeDislikeReport SPAM
the bible explains that the antichrist hides evil inside good-looking words
Posted by King of Shambhala on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44LikeDislikeReport SPAM
this article is bad for bush but worse for obama because he’ll have to explain why his rule was the time when this was all covered upIf he decides tor eveal this then bush will go crazy and reveal the birth issueIf bush falls Obama falls with him like birds engaged in battle that falll down to earth
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:08LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The persecution of the truth movement is ongoing.When the Patriots take back the country, we will remember and know what to do with hemp rope and the enemies of the Constitution.
Posted by Ash on Monday, August 15, 2011 2:27LikeDislikeReport SPAM
“So, if they were in the basement, how would they know when the planes impacted the towers, down to the second?”it is clear that your IQ is below 100.
They know the time the explosions took place and they compared it to the time the planes struck the towers according to news reports. The comparison informed them that the explosions took place earlier than the impact of the planes on the tower. Still difficult to grasp?
Posted by King of Shambhala on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:05LikeDislikeReport SPAM
the cover up is right here at b4in
my two last comments were at the bottom but b4in editors shuffled them around and put the two last ones before them
they don’t want people to know obama’s the antichrist and i’m the messiah
b4in will all go to hell for covering up for the antichrist obama
he’s marked by 666 as said before in my comments
spread this news fast
watcha lso if my comments here is shufflled or even deleted
I’m marked for banning by b4in bad people
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:39LikeDislikeReport SPAM
The real truth is that such a large group of American law abiding citizens, with grievances, can do absolutely nothing to make the US Government respond and open new investigation.Al thru human history there were such powerful arrogant Governments that ignored the common men.
All those Government are gone today.
When one goes, another 2 or more appears again.
The evil minds never rest while good people always seek rest and recreation. The struggle will go on when minds of people are open and become vigilant at all times.
True freedom only happens when the revolution occurr at each and every home, village, rural town. And people, police, soldiers all awaken to the truth and refraining from using force against each other. It happened in India and China and they are the most free countries today.
Their freedom includes the freedom to live a poor but a life of their own choice. India chose chaos as a means to prevent rise of a powerful Government. China chose the path of selecting the best minds.
China nearly lost its freedom during the times of people such as Ziang zemin and Zu Rong ji. Happily their replacement has brought China back to stability.
US citizens have allowed a monster Government to grow. That monster is attacking the world just as Napoleans French Government did and later Hitler’s German Government did.
Some say, England or jews are behind all such Governments.
But the truth is that the people were sleeping while the monster grew.
All we can do now is just wait until the Monster exhaust itself and fall down.
or just write more comments on blogs.
Posted by King of Shambhala on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:58LikeDislikeReport SPAM
this article will have a ripple effect because bush will flip out and he’ll go ballistic on obama about the birth issue to drag him down together
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first to 50000 gets the apocalypse
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Please check out breaking news of Apocalypse for Antichrist ObamaSheriff Arpaio interview about Birthers and Obama FULL TRANSCRIPTSheriff Joe Arpaio speaks on deportation, ‘birther’ quoteArizona’s 12 News

Full transcript of video with Joe Arpaio’s (birther passage) by Arizona’s 12 News:

Question: We got an e-mail from a Tea Party supporter and there was actually a headline on the e-mail that says this: “Arizona sheriff promises Obama eligibility investigation.”

Arpaio: You know they had a meeting, Sun City West, Tea Party – about 300 sign a petition… want me to look into that… They met with me,… I’m listening to them,… if they have any good information, maybe I’ll look into it. That’s my job.

Q: So you could possibly spend county taxpayer-dollar, on investigating President Obama’s citizenship…?

A: I’m not saying I’m doing it, but if it’s a violation…

Q: …but it’s a possibility…

A: … if it’s a violation of law,… I spend money all the time… enforcing DUI, every law there is…

Q: but isn’t there’s a big difference between someone getting a DUI and the President of the United State’s CITIZENSHIP!

A: If there’s a violation of the laws, state… Arizona law,…. it’s my duty as Chief Law-Enforcement Officer, to look into it,… like any other violation of the law.

Q: Do you think President Obama is a citizen of the United States?

A: I have no idea. I don’t get involved in that. Let’s see some probable cause, let’s see some evidence, I’m not going to prejudge anything.

Q: But the investigation will remain open to you… in terms of … again…spending money.

A: It all depends on what kind of information they come up with. Like any crime… alleged crime. What’s money got to do with it? We enforce all the laws, I have a budget. I know how to operate my budget. We investigate a lot of people.

Q: Well again, it comes back to resources doesn’t it? Because you know you’re going to get criticism if you’re checking the citizenship of the president and, again, people want you going after the hardened criminals.

A: Oh really? They want me…? Who says they want me going after the hardened criminals? I’m an equal opportunity-guy. I go after anybody that violates the law. We don’t discriminate.

Q: Sheriff, you’re always available to give your opinion. And we sure really appreciate that.

A: Alright.

http://www.azcentral.com/video/1118945830001

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Little known fact: Obama’s the Antichrist.

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Update to Eilat Terror Attackhttp://www.richardsilverstein.com/Of Sycophants and Stenographers: Carrying Water for Israel’s Fraudulent Version of Eilat Terror Attack
August 23rd, 2011Of ships and shoes and sealing wax, and cabbages and kings.

–Jabberwocky

The journalists which Israeli military-intelligence circles are employing to cover their sins involving the Eilat terror attack and its aftermath are certainly not kings, though they might be cabbages. They are sycophants and stenographers as well. What is especially interesting though, is how the very Israeli official sources which claimed the assault was the doing of the Popular Resistance Committee and Hamas are trying to walk the horse back into the barn with new versions which ignore the worst sins of the original claims, while adding new lies, attempting to patch up the flaws of the original.

A case in point is Eli Lake’s report in today’s Washington Times which uses unnamed U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources in painting a picture that is almost totally devoid of truth or honesty. It seems that certain circles of Israeli and U.S. intelligence here in this country have done an excellent job of coordinating their stories. The Americans, despite the fact that there is little truth in the claims, seem to be parroting Israeli views quite diligently.

In his story, Al Qaeda Linked to Eilat Bus Ambush, note how the crime Bibi Netanyahu associated solely with Gaza and the Popular Resistance Committee slowly morphes into a crime linked to Al Qaeda:

A U.S. government assessment of the incident Thursday concludes that either the Palestinian group Popular Resistance Committees or the Gaza-based Army of Islam (or Jaish al Islam), a Palestinian group sympathetic to al Qaeda, carried out the commando assault and bombing raid that emanated from the increasingly lawless Sinai Peninsula.

The “report” of course offers absolutely no proof that any Gaza entities were involved. Nor does it mention (the truth) that no Gazans appear to have been killed in the incident. It doesn’t mention that Israel, normally eager to release identifying information about apprehended or killed terrorists, has done neither. But it does bring up a new group Israel hadn’t previously blamed, Army of Islam. The fact that it has been linked to Al Qaeda allows Lake’s sources to move attention from the Gaza angle to the Al Qaeda angle. Note how the story continues morphing in front of our very eyes:

One intelligence official who focuses on al Qaeda said an initial assessment identified a new group, al Qaeda in the Sinai Peninsula, as a key perpetrator of the attack.

This is the first time in the entire piece that Lake has written something likely truthful. But notice in doing so, he’s prefaced it with enough information pointing fingers back at Gaza, that Israel’s fraudulent claims regarding Hamas and the PRC don’t trouble the reader’s mind.

Lake then uses hasbara mouthpiece Dore Gold to clinch the alleged Gaza-Sinai connection with even more lies:

Mr. Gold added, “These organizations [Hamas , PRC, Army of Islam, Al Qaeda] all work together, and Sinai is a place where they all meet.”

First, while Hamas and PRC do cooperate, Hamas is at war with Army of Islam and has liquidated its members whenever it could find them. There is no evidence Hamas has cooperated with any Al Qaeda elements anywhere including the Sinai. But what Gold has done is to link Hamas and the PRC, wrong accused by Bibi Netanyahu of responsibility for the crime, with Sinai Islamist forces which likely did commit it. All in the service of obfuscating Israel’s earlier claim which it used to assault Gaza and kill 14 there who had nothing whatsoever to do with what happened in Eilat.

In the following sentence Lake belatedly adds information which provides him a suitable “out” should the lies he’s been fed be exposed by anyone authoritatively:

U.S. officials told The Washington Times there is no confirmation identifying the attacker conclusively.

He follows this with a theory which some American intelligence source passes off as authoritative, containing, at least, more truth than the earlier suppositions the journalist put forward:

One intelligence official who focuses on al Qaeda said the majority of all source intelligence points to al Qaeda.

And note here that there isn’t any mention of Hamas or the PRC or Gaza. Again, a small element of truth. But what this claim neglects is that native Egyptian elements were deeply implicated in the terror attack. And those who carried out the assault may or may not have been influenced or allied with Al Qaeda. But the origin of the attack was Egypt and not Gaza, and not even Al Qaeda (except insofar as Al Qaeda may be operating in the Sinai together with Egyptian Islamists).

In the following passage, Lake becomes hopelessly embroiled in the thicket of Islamist terror groups, appearing to confuse the Gazan Army of God with Sinai-based terror groups:

Over the weekend, however, as more information was gathered about the attack near Eilat, some Israeli official sources also began to acknowledge that a group known as Jaish al Islam, an extremist Muslim organization, also played a role in the attack.

If confirmed, the involvement of a new Sinai-based al Qaeda group would be yet another extremist group aligned with the goals of the terrorist group behind the Sept. 11, 2001…

Note that no Israeli source has previously blamed Army of Islam for the Eilat incident and that neither Lake nor his source offer any specific evidence to support the claim. This is the first we hear of Army of Islam in connection to the incident. The reason it’s been advanced is that there have been claims made over the past year or two that Army of Islam has made alliance with Sinai-based Islamists. By introducing the red herring of Army of Islam, Israel walks the horse back to the barn. We’re still blaming someone in Gaza for the attacks, but now we’re at least blaming a group that has some connections to the real probable perpetrators, Sinai militants.

Israeli intelligence continues trying to walk the horse that Bibi let escape from the barn back into it, by reducing the role the PRC played in the attack. Now instead of being the authors, they are merely the scouts. As such, Israel’s assassination of three of the PRC’s leaders can still be justified:

The intelligence official who said there are signs of a new Sinai-based group said initial assessments indicated the Popular Resistance Committees‘ role was limited to providing advance scouting of locations for the attack.

“PRC was clearly involved, [but] they were not the brains or the brawn of the operation. They were the scouts,” the official said. “Because the PRC squawked after the operation, they became an immediate target. It is not an unjustifiable reaction.”

There is one major problem with this claim. The PRC is Gaza based. It doesn’t operate outside Gaza. How and why would it have provided “scouting” expertise to Sinai based terrorists seeking to assault an Israeli city 100 miles from Gaza? Wouldn’t you think the Sinai-based Egyptians planning the attack could’ve done a better job of scouting Egyptian border posts and Israeli security presence in the region where the attack took place? How could the PRC have helped in any credible way? No, the explanation is lame. What it does do though, is offer Bibi a fig leaf to justify his mendacious claim of PRC authorship of the attack, which he used to justify the killings (which also killed a 2 year old boy).

Now let’s pass on to a new report from Ami Issacharoff, Haaretz’s military correspondent, which also adds elements of truth to the mix in the form of information that may actually be truthful but was previously withheld. Nonetheless, the information is presented solely from the IDF perspective and its purpose is solely to exonerate the IDF of blame for the terror incident and the failure to prevent it.

Issacharoff begins with the Al Masry Al Youm report that Egypt has identified three of the terrorists as Egyptian. What Haaretz doesn’t say, and the IDF knows, is that almost certainly ALL the attackers were Egyptian. That is why the IDF has not released any information about them, contrary to all previous military practice after terror incidents.

His report rather nonchalantly reveals the potentially incendiary information I reported yesterday, that an IDF force entered Egyptian territory in hot pursuit of the attackers, and that the IDF engaged and killed real Egyptian military who were trying to apprehend or kill the actual terrorists.

In this passage, the Haaretz reporter actually mischaracterizes the Al Masry report:

An Egyptian security vehicle making its way to the area of the incident was also attacked, but it remains unclear who was responsible.

The Egyptian newspaper clearly indicates, as I reported yesterday, that the Israeli helicopter fired on the security vehicle, further sabotaging efforts by the real Egyptian security forces to get the terrorists.

In this passage, the IDF is doing more of the walking the horse back to the barn which I described in Eli Lake’s report:

Egyptian intelligence is also aware of cooperation between members of the Popular Resistance Committees in the Gaza Strip with Islamist activists operating in the Sinai desert.

Actually, I’d never heard of such cooperation (perhaps they’re confusing Army of Islam with the PRC) and this would appear to be IDF spin made up out of whole cloth meant to justify the murder of the three top PRC leaders which Bibi crowed about within minutes of the conclusion of the Eilat attack. In fact, an Israeli who knew the PRC’s leader wrote it was unlikely he was able to mastermind such a complicated operation. The source told me his relatives and friends could not believe this attack was something the PRC was capable of. Probably because it wasn’t!

Another purpose of Issacharoff’s stenographic report on the IDF’s behalf, is to answer the Shabak’s angry outburst just after the attack, in which it claimed it offered the IDF a specific terror threat indicating the time and place of the attack. In Anshel Pfeffer’s earlier report Shabak said it told the IDF the attack would come during the day but that IDF rejected the notion that terrorists would attack by day. Note how the IDF appears to lie about the Shabak’s warning & parries the intelligence agency’s attack:

The [Shabak] intelligence warning had been an old one, and even though it was still pending, it had not become any stronger during the days before the attack.

The IDF decided, however, to step up preparedness in certain border areas, including the area where the attack took place.

The Shin Bet security service in its assessments thought any attack would come at night…

Here the IDF seems to contradict itself:

One scenario posed an attack during the day, but the target was expected to be the hundreds of workers building the border fence, and not civilian vehicles.

This is possibly the most self-serving, but truthful of all the content of this article:

The attack ultimately proved contrary to the most likely scenarios.

Why doesn’t Issacharoff simply admit the IDF was wrong and failed, which is the truth? Instead of saying that it was the terrorists’ fault the attack wasn’t foiled because they didn’t adopt the “most likely scenarios.” Why can’t the IDF include within its operational scope the “unlikely scenarios,” such as the one the attackers ultimately used, which fooled the Israelis so badly? I suppose it’s hard for a country so proud of its military to admit that a bunch of terrorists appear to have run rings around it.

From the IDF portrayal offered by Issacharoff, it appears the Israeli army believed (and perhaps still believes) that actual Egyptian security forces participated in the terror attack, (another incendiary claim). This account is truly bizarre and hard to credit, and certainly raises lots of questions:

The incident involving the Egyptians occurred later in the afternoon, while the chief of staff and the defense minister held a press conference north of Eilat. An IDF force rushed to an area where there had been more shooting. Egyptian soldiers were seen holding three men at gunpoint.

When the Israeli officers asked for the captives to be handed over, an Egyptian officer claimed that they were Egyptian soldiers. At some point the troops came under fire, and a sniper killed the anti-terrorist police officer Pascal Avrahami.

IDF and Egyptian soldiers were facing each other along the border and they came under fire from one of the groups of terrorists. They were neutralized by the soldiers. The incident ended about 6 P.M.

Were they real Egyptian soldiers? Or was the Egyptian force fooled by the uniforms into believing they were? Whose troops came under fire? I presume the Israelis. Who fired at them? The Egyptian military? Why?

The notion that the IDF and Egyptian soldiers were in the midst of a standoff arguing about who would take the three prisoners, and came under fire in the midst of all this indicates a complete level of dysfunction.

Imagine you’re an IDF officer inside Egypt. You have the chutzpah to demand custody of terrorists from Egyptian troops on their own soil? The only reason the Egyptian government isn’t screaming bloody murder over this is that they’re embarrassed they allowed Sinai terrorists to attack Eilat. Everybody has egg on their faces: Bibi lied and murdered 14 Gazans for no reason; Egypt failed to police its own territory and allowed terrorists to attack Israel. No wonder neither government is eager to ferret out the truth and reveal it publicly. Which is why blogs like this exist.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 26, 2011 6:12LikeDislikeReport SPAM
I am not surprised that this event occured as explained in the article. The governments of the western world are forever perpetuating the myth that they are the good guys at all times & everyone else is a baddie. BUt they are as crooked as any criminal that is prosecuted for any crime. Most of the terrorism that occurs is due to people fighting for their freedom. A majority of the western worlds governments have had a strong relationship with despots, & fascists across the world. Mugabe for instance has never been indicted for crimes against humanity yet he is one of the most evil men there is. When will the world see what is right in front of them & see the truth. I, for one, plus many know that most governments are dishonest & the truth will out…

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